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Odie

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Just wondering if anyone here owns fish. I am looking at starting one for my son for Christmas. Just wondering if you do if you have any tips on selecting fish and what size tank to get. I am thinking of a size 10 aquarium at this time they have one at the store that has the filters and everything with it for 40 bucks.
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10 g's is a nice starter size but it's just like anything else you'll want more soon enough. i started with a 1/2 moon 10 gal, went to a 20 'tall' then got a 55. currently only the 55 has fish in it but the 20 still has water & needs cleaning. we have a Blue crayfish, a Feather-Finned Squeaker, some Tetra Glo-Fish and non-glo Tetras, and a couple Chinese algae suckers that need to get to work. and a couple Large goldfish (Coy?). had some Candy-Clawed frogs i don't recommend them, and Larry the Blue crayfish ate the Rainbow Snail's face off so consider that factor. do your research before you buy a swarm of fish that'll outgrow the tank! a common Plecostomus gets pretty big! some of the fancy cats too

$40 isn't a bad buy-in but consider the more factor ... remember let your water sit 3 days min before adding fish or water to the tank, or they have the quick start tablets

  
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Thanks for the insight. Just wondering what you mean about waiting three days to add water to the tank. I see that you have to wait a while to put the fish in there because of the nitrogen cycle but I thought that meant the water had to be in the tank to do that.
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i thought it was more about chlorine but it's probably multiple chem's in the water. i keep a couple or 3 gallon jugs of tap water aging to add for evaporation, i let them sit 3 days min

check out the tags on the tanks at the pet store, they give info as to how aggressive each fish is and expected full size
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I do saltwater/reef so its a little more complex, but still mostly the same. 

Recommend getting a bigger tank. Your going to want one soon anyway. I really like taller tanks, the footprint isnt much bigger and with a larger water column the fish have more freedom. Check CL, FB, Garage sales. Used tanks are pretty much free, when you have one and don't need it they are just in the way. Just scrub it with vinegar, rinse thoroughly and allow to dry before starting.  Usually you will have to get a filter but a hang on back works fine. For lights I recommend some of the cheap LED fixtures out there. If you get the colored rock and decorations I would boil them before adding, there is all sort of nasty junk on those you don't want in your tank 

For water if you are on a well and the water is known not to be too hard, just use it. If you are on city water I really recommend either buying RO/DI water from a fish store or getting distilled water from the grocery store. Fill it up and let it run for at least 2-3 days, a week is better. This lets you make sure all the equipment is running right, get the heater set right, etc. With a freshwater tank there is less of a nitrogen cycle, so you don't have to wait for that. I would highly recommend getting a decent fitting tank lid. It will help stop evap, and I would recommend refilling with distilled or RO/DI water. 99% of freshwater tank issues are bad water. 

Pick up a chemical called Prime - https://www.amazon.com/Seachem-116043304-Prime-500ml/dp/B00025694O - it bonds with chlorine and ammonia to render them inert. Great to have on hand if you need to use city water, and to stave off the ammonia issues if you have a fish die. 

Also for freshwater I recommend Aquarium Salt - https://www.amazon.com/API-AQUARIUM-Freshwater-Aquarium-65-Ounce/dp/B0010P0ZJK/ref=sr_1_2?s=pet-supplies&ie=UTF8&qid=1513605387&sr=1-2&keywords=freshwater+salt - There arent many things that aren't safe with it, mostly exotic plants. It does wonders for keeping disease at bay and giving the fish better scale coatings. 

If you really care, grab some test strip and check it often when you first start, it will help to catch an issue before you have fish start dying. It doesn't catch contaminants, like spray cleaner used near the tank, but it will catch common issues. https://www.amazon.com/STRIPS-Freshwater-Saltwater-Aquarium-25-Count/dp/B000HHOAIY/ref=sr_1_3?s=pet-supplies&ie=UTF8&qid=1513605492&sr=1-3&keywords=freshwater+test+kit

It can seem like a lot of work, but its really not bad. A lot of people just think you can toss some water in a tank, throw fish in and go. Not really good for the fish. Don't know how old your son is, but it can be a really good learning experience if you approach it right. Learning the Nitrogen cycle, testing is really just applied chemistry, over time you can learn to customize you own filters, etc. 

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I had a 55gal with an Oscar and two jack dempseys. I started them in a 20gal when they were really little and bought a complete 55gal setup with two great big algae eaters and a handful of small fish for like $75. The Oscar and Jacks immediately killed all the small fish. Then slowly they killed the algae eaters. Had them for about 4 years. Lots of fun to feed them (in general) but nightcrawlers and feeder fish made for a pretty good show. I didn't think it was overly hard to care for them. Suck all the junk out and keep the filters clean.
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Thanks guys so to give you a little update. I did get my son the 10 gallon starter kit. We are about 2 weeks in with 4 platies. I test my water everycouple of days right now using the master api test kit. I Like the sand substrate and at this point I got 3 java ferns I love real plants. I do already wish I would have saved more money for christmas and picked up a 20 long or 29 kit. Just cause I feel kind of bad that they can't swim more without switching directions. The tank stays at 76 degrees ph right now is 8.2 and the ammonia level got to it highest right now at 2 ppm nitrite and nitrate levels are staying at zero. I believe in the next week I will see those spike and the tank will start to get fully settled.




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A good starter for sure!  My dad and I spent lots of hours together with our fish tanks back in the '60s.  We started with one... probably had 8~10 by the time I went off into the Army.  120 gal was our largest.
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