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So for a while now I have been looking at getting a baby 9mm or .38 to carry in my pocket or IWB. The reason for this is I normally carry a Glock 19 IWB and with my normal clothes, I always find that my shirt is coming up and exposing the grip section of the gun. Normally this isn't a problem in winter because of my jacket but it makes normal carrying a slight pain in the other months. So to wrap it up I have been looking at some single stack 9mm and .38 and wow it's hard to settle on which one to pick up.  

So right now the handguns I have been looking at are as follows.

-Glock 43
-Glock 42
-Ruger LC9s
-Ruger LCP or LCP 2
-SW Shield
-SW Bodyguard (have not looked into much)
-Sig P238 (Looked at yesterday and the gun store with a rainbow finish and wood grip and wow what a pretty gun.)

Now at the end of the day, I will probably rent these that the range and go with the one I can shoot and manipulate well and comes in a price point that I haven't decided on yet. Not too sure about what I want to spend because I still believe I will want to rely on my 19 as my main CCW (The new gen 5 that came out makes me smile so I might have to get it).

Just looking at what you guys would pick or have picked up. Also any thoughts anybody might have on this topic or other guns I should look at.  Glock-42-1-661x496.jpg  RugerLCPII-2.jpg  MP-Shield-courtesy-smith-wesson.com_1.png  smith-amp-wesson-mampp-bodyguard-380.jpg  p238-rb.jpg   




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My everyday carry pocket gun is the Smith & Wesson 637 with grip clip. It is a 5 shot 38 special +p rated I love the fun throw it in the pocket and I don't know it is there.
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I have a Ruger LCP, S&W Bodyguard, and Sig P238 (all in .380 ACP) for pocket pistols.  I bought them in that order... Ruger first - didn't like it. S&W second - better than Ruger but still not what I hoped.  Sig last - I like it best.  I've shot the Glock .380 and liked it least of all.  I have not tried the new Ruger LCP-II, some say it is improved over the original.  I know this is HIGHLY subjective... everyone likes a different flavor of ice cream.  My rating factors include trigger, sights, hand-fit, 15-yard accuracy, and recoil.  You'd be amazed at the difference in perceived recoil with the identical ammo between the Ruger & Glock (worst), the S&W (better), and the Sig (best).  I'm tall and thin with long fingers but not "meaty" hands... those .380s have quite a "slap" to them.
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I like and carry a G43 from that list. I shoot it well and my under cover officer friends prefer them. It's my deep urban carry gun with +2 mag and crossbred holster. Not a pocket guy. Most the time I carry a G27 around here. But I'm in a rather rural environment and have finished of a few wounded animals from cars and hunters. For this reason I prefer 40,works better. Not so much your question though.
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Something else to consider if this is for carry. 

If you ever get in a situation where you have to fire from inside the pocket (like an armed mugger attack), you want something that doesn't get jammed up in the clothing.  A small revolver is a lot less likely to do that than a semiauto with a slide that has to function.  Even with a external hammer, your hand is going to provide clearance for the hammer to work.  A slide could get hung up on the pocket going back or coming forward.


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The LCP-2 is a huge improvement over the original. I had the first one and got rid of it. The LCP-2 trigger is what makes all the difference. It's a much shorter, crisper pull now rather than the long revolver feeling DA pull from the original. Nothing really wrong with that, but the LCP was so small my finger had to curl back on itself to complete the pull. I carry mine in a pocket holster when I'm not able to carry my usual G30S.
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Thanks for all of your guy's input so far!
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If you are looking at the 238 the 938 is the same size but is 9mm
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My everyday carry pocket gun is the Smith & Wesson 637 with grip clip. It is a 5 shot 38 special +p rated I love the fun throw it in the pocket and I don't know it is there.
EDC here is a 442 Centennial / no lock with the Clip Grip tucked inside the waistband, appendix position with +P short barrel SD rounds. 1st choice was a Kel-Tec P11 but the small mass 9mm is ridiculous to hold onto tight enough to guarantee function

as mentioned above, small autos are not cute, also i refuse to CC anything with a single action pull. my G19 i put the NY1 spring in with a 3.5 connector for a nice double action pull
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The LCP-2 is a huge improvement over the original. <snip>
Good to know; I'll have to try one.  I've never been so disappointed with a Ruger firearm as I was the LCP...

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If you are looking at the 238 the 938 is the same size but is 9mm
Haven't tried one yet, I can't imagine the recoil!  [eek]

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If you ever get in a situation where you have to fire from inside the pocket (like an armed mugger attack), you want something that doesn't get jammed up in the clothing.  A small revolver is a lot less likely to do that than a semiauto with a slide that has to function...
Rifter has a good point, if you intend to fire from inside clothing (ouch!!) a hammerless revolver is a better choice than any semi-auto.

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<snip>also, i refuse to CC anything with a single action pull...
As I said, "everyone likes a different flavor of ice-cream" - a 10-lb trigger pull isn't what I train with, so the single action pull of the Sig is ideal for me. I understand if not for others...

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Haven't tried one yet, I can't imagine the recoil!  [eek]

I have shot the 9 and the 380 in the sig. it has been a while but I don’t recall much of a difference in recoil. I just believe 9mm is better for self defense. If the guns are the same size
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This is my EDC i just love the gun 20140423_182444.jpg  20140423_214031.jpg  20140423_214135.jpg 






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I carry either a G43, or a Performance Center Shield 9mm. Usually the Shield, as I just shoot it better. I didn't want to, but the targets didn't lie. I don't pocket carry though. I carry IWB about 430, but in will be experimenting and doing some training with an AIWB for the Shield soon.

I only have some handling experience (did not shoot it) with the Bodyguard, but on thr one I had, you had to depress the mag release to not only drop the mag, but reinsert one as well? There may have been someting wrong with that particular pistol, I don't know? I have also not heard great reviews on it from folks who have actually shot it, but those are just thier opinions.

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I switched to appendix about a year ago and have not looked back I started with and XDS and now I am rotating with it and a P320C. I feel I have more control over the weapon in the appendix position.
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I carry a S&W bodygaurd .380 it was a bit of a trick to get used to the trigger, My wife carries the LC9S and chose that over the new Glock 43 (new at the time).
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Haven't tried one yet, I can't imagine the recoil!  [eek]


I absolutely love my P938. Recoil is fairly substantial, but by no means is it unmanageable. The grip width plays a big factor in that. Not too wide so you can pocket that bad larry, but not too narrow that it hurts like the G43 (if you don't get a solid grip the first time). I got the SAS model with the Tritium sights and a few IWB holsters. I don't even bother with those, just the sticky holster for my pocket.

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I carry the glock 43. Small light weight. I added a pinky extension and a houge grip as a have long fingers.
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I'm still looking [smile] Anybody a fan of Kahrs? I think I am leaning towards a .380 Just because this is a quick grab gun for times like going to the store etc. This really would not be an issue if I had millions of dollars [smile].  
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You're going to spend an arm and a leg on a Khar if you decide to go that route. Great guns if you want to keep them factory or pay a gunsmith to do anything to them past night sights. Zero aftermarket support that I've found.
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I'm still looking [smile] Anybody a fan of Kahrs? I think I am leaning towards a .380 Just because this is a quick grab gun for times like going to the store etc. This really would not be an issue if I had millions of dollars [smile].  


I have a Kahr CW-45. I like it. Originally had some issues with it due to an out of spec trigger bar (had to send it in twice). Company paid for shipping both times and got it fixed. Still happy with it.

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My wife's M&P shield with an apex trigger is really quite a nice platform
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I have carried for over 40 years.  I prefer IWB but on a recent trip to Alaska I carried son's Ruger LCR .357 Mag in a sticky holster in the front jeans pocket.  Carried and concealed well.  
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