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But,we manage by making our rifles look strange but still functional.
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Keep fighting the good fight... when we give up and say "Meh, let them have California".... it's just a matter of time before other States are next.
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Keep fighting the good fight... when we give up and say "Meh, let them have California".... it's just a matter of time before other States are next.


That's what I used to say when I was still living out there in San Diego.  At the time I first got there, in 1970, San Diego was the last bastion of conservatism left in the state.  However, over the next 16 years I watched it swing more and more left and liberal.  By 1986, the writing was on the wall for anybody who cared to look.

At that point, I pulled the plug and moved back to Illinois.  Even at that point, Illinois was far less draconian than California had become.  Despite what is going on in Chicago today, Illinois has improved considerably since then, while California has gone done the drain.  It isn't worth expending more resources on trying to fight the anti-gun forces.  I've still got friends and family out there and what I hear from them is bone chilling.  I'm sure Larry will agree.

Btw, the latest ranking of states for gun rights is in the latest issue of Guns & Ammo.  Most of the rest of the states have improved their ranking.  Interesting read.

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Keep fighting the good fight... when we give up and say "Meh, let them have California".... it's just a matter of time before other States are next.
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Unfortunately they already "have" California. In the last election, as a conservative, you may as well have stayed home. If you look at the color chart you'll see that virtually all counties west were blue and east were red. All the major population centers are in the western counties so, it was a foregone conclusion the direction the state would go. Now the liberal state legislators have a "super majority" which means they are free to pass all gun control measures that are proposed and even if the Governor vetos one they easily have the votes to overturn the veto. To say gun owners are screwed in CA would be putting it mildly. All they seem to work on in Sacramento is gun control while infrastructure crumbles, and dams almost fail that would flood a third of our central valley.

Now, since Las Vegas, things will get far worse I'm certain even though I truely hope they ban those damn bump stocks quickly with no grandfather clause. There's no legitimate purpose or 2nd Amendment reason anyone needs something that can do what it does. Fun doesn't outweigh the potential for abuse.

Enough of that. Politics....yuk! Sorry for going on so.
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i was about to ask if you've seen the ARES SCR ?

then i remembered 'the list' ... are long guns subject to approval?
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i was about to ask if you've seen the ARES SCR ?

then i remembered 'the list' ... are long guns subject to approval?


Not sure what you mean by "approval". If you mean like handguns, no there is no "list" except those rifles still specifically listed as banned in CA if not registered previously as assault rifles and that's an old list.

That 's a pretty cool rifle actually. Probably the only issue I have with it is that it looks like it's limited to only one caliber. With an AR you have the ability to use multiple calibers with a single lower. It could get mighty expensive and troublesome having to buy entire rifles for a caliber change and have to go through an FFL for each. Right now I have AR15 uppers in 8 different calibers and AR10 in 2 calibers. Even through I have several lowers I could have easily done it with only 1 AR15 lower and 1 AR10.

That's the beauty of the AR platform. Even in CA I can buy uppers and still have them mailed to me as long as they are minus a flash hider and forward grip. But, to be honest, I build all of mine anyway these days. To me, that's half the fun of it. Obviously since I have 8 calibers and can't hardly resist anything new.
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There are always M1A and Ruger mini variants! It kills me that the AR and AK platform are "bad" but the ruger mini and M1A1 variants are "ok". Any of us on this forum with 30 days of solid training and we'd be able to operate these platforms as well as our AR platforms..

Sorry Lap - I escaped 6 years ago, not missing SoCal a bit and neither is my brother...
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i was about to ask if you've seen the ARES SCR ?

then i remembered 'the list' ... are long guns subject to approval?


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Not sure what you mean by "approval". If you mean like handguns, no there is no "list" except those rifles still specifically listed as banned in CA if not registered previously as assault rifles and that's an old list. That 's a pretty cool rifle actually. Probably the only issue I have with it is that it looks like it's limited to only one caliber. With an AR you have the ability to use multiple calibers with a single lower...


Yes that's what i was wondering if long guns need prior OK for sale in CA ...

but for sure the SCR can go multi cal, the proprietary carrier accepts AR bolts and it uses standard AR .250" pin uppers, i have a southpaw upper on mine. since my upper is not mil-spec it took a tad if relieving the upper for the sear NBD. critics wail about the pencil barrel not an issue if you're going to 'cat it, the trigger isn't great i'd like to get mine worked a little but all in all it's pretty well done, here's an article http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/04/foghorn/gun-review-ares-defense-scr/

re-attaching the upper is easiest if you push the front pivot out & bring the upper back into the buffer again NBD IMO. i even found a custom left hand safety on GB, and since i bought mine as a lower I'm OK to pistolize it
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Keep fighting the good fight... when we give up and say "Meh, let them have California".... it's just a matter of time before other States are next.

I agree with this. Don't give them breathing room to do what they want. Keep up the good fight!
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There are always M1A and Ruger mini variants! It kills me that the AR and AK platform are "bad" but the ruger mini and M1A1 variants are "ok". Any of us on this forum with 30 days of solid training and we'd be able to operate these platforms as well as our AR platforms..

Sorry Lap - I escaped 6 years ago, not missing SoCal a bit and neither is my brother...


Don't let them hear you say that!!!

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