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I saw that as well. Pretty embarrassing that people get so butthurt over someone playing with “their” cartridge.
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Biggdawg and I were just talking about a few hours ago. That thread got ugly quick on that forum.
Yep and when I called the mods out for bashing. Woodstock started PM'ING me and wanted to argue about it.

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Yep. That's why I don't post anything there any more. You can be completely factual and it turns in to a complete circus if you aren't stroking their egos.
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Biggdawg and I were just talking about a few hours ago. That thread got ugly quick on that forum.


Even though I participate there and have two 6.8SPC's in my safe and love them, they are so protective of their beloved 6.8 they bash anyone who even suggests something mew and possibly improved could exist or be created. The part I find disturbing is that they don't seem to do it to their sponsors. Black Hole for example and the 6.5X6.8. Accuracy wise a big improvement over the 6.8.

But, there's no question about their discriminatory feelings about MDWS and Mark in particular. Sad when you can't handle a little competition. Even more sad when the Moderators spend as much or more time spreading the static as the static spreaders. One or two in particular that I couldn't believe were ever made Moderators based on previous postings and threads.
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Yep and when I called the mods out for bashing. Woodstock started PM'ING me and wanted to argue about it.


Woodstock...LOL. One of the worse bashers and static spreaders on that Forum BEFORE he made Moderator. How he ever got put in a position of power there is an example of how flawed the Forum is. The other Mods there often have to remind him during his static fests to stay on topic. And one other Mod there, I won't name, is the first to step in and defend him. Moderators are put in place to moderate, keep folks within the rules and prevent static, not create or perpetuate it.

He actually PM'd you to argue? Oh boy, that would have been it with me. He would have gotten both barrels by PM and in the public Forum had he done that with me regardless of the consequences.
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Sideshow aside, let's get back on topic. I dropped off my Black Hole Weaponry 18" 1/11 twist to ream to the new chamber. I ran some baseline loads with the original SPCII chamber to get those speeds. This barrel usually runs faster with a given load plus I can usually push it a little harder as it doesn't show pressure signs as fast. (For those that aren't familiar with BHW barrels, it's a 3 groove polygonal rifling.)
It should prove interesting to see the before/after.
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Yup, I was just going to mention that. Sorry, definately my bad. Back to football. :-)
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I was actually the one that inadvertently stepped in it by starting the latest thread.  I don't know any of the back story of what happened "before" and don't really want to know or be involved in it.  I've learned a lot over there and it took me over here too!  With that said, I can understand to a certain extent the argument of not wanting to muddy the waters with another cartridge when the military was looking at the 6.8 SPC.  So I can respect their wishes to not want to change the cartridge, which I did; and it seems some still believe it may be adopted which may be why it is such a volatile subject. But at this point, it seems pretty obvious that the military isn't going to adopt it, but who knows!  

I was sitting thinking about the problem of the Spec 1 chamber and why major ammunition makers won't load the Spec II to it's full potential and I thought about the "ackley" solution.  Wow did I think I was smart to think of this all by myself !  haha.  Anyway, I thought, here it is, make a new chamber so close to the original that you could fire factory Spec 1 in it to fire form for your improved cartridge, but change the shoulder and maybe blow out the taper a bit, but not too much to affect function.  You would then gain a little case capacity which is always going to result in more speed than the parent cartridge and problem solved!  Guys that are reloading for their Spec II barrels and are loading them to the max, are in a sense, fire forming their brass to their chamber(observe all the talk of minimum shoulder bump and gaining a grain of so extra powder room).  So anyway, it's no different with your new cartridge, you are going to show gains over a Spec II, since you have 1. Fire formed your brass to the "improved" chamber, which increases your powder capacity.  2. Since you are I'm sure going to run your free bore to at least Spec II dimensions, you won't have Spec 1 pressure issues and you already are going to run 5R rifling, so you will gain even more speed with it.  Would it be a huge increase?  I don't know, but it would be measurable and "if" it could be marketed to Federal or Hornady, who knows....Don't mention Remington, that is a four letter word to me.

Sorry for the rant guys, but I think your's a worthwhile endeavor and hope it works out, which it seems to have already.  

I will still participate on the other forum when I feel the need, but I will also respect their wishes on this subject.  BTW, when I was looking for go/no go gauges for the 6.8SPC, I saw a 6.8 SPC Ackley 40* gauge set listed, so that has obviously been done already too !   That one I'd do in a bolt action in a heartbeat !

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