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Several caliber/thread/finish options in the works, but here's the sample description for the Matte stainless 5/8-24 .308 version we currently offer along with .277 and .358:


Introducing the MDWS Hybrid Muzzle Device (HMD) .358 Matte Stainless 5/8-24.  This is a new product that is not only a compensator but also a flash suppressor.  The 18-port compensator chamber 
has a unique science built into it; it significantly reduces muzzle climb and can be clocked and locked for right or left hand shooters, while the A1 Birdcage style flash suppression chamber provides a substantial reduction in muzzle flash.

The hidden science behind the HMD is the transition between the two chambers.  The compensation chamber's ports provide a mean of escape for the initial exhaust of air in front of the bullet allowing the bullet to travel into the second chamber with less interference.  Meanwhile, the compensation chamber is comprised of 18 total ports, 4 of which are dead-center 12 O'Clock for center-line reference.  As you can see in the photos, flash is considerably reduced compared to no muzzle device.  Please see the below YouTube Video of live fire comparisons that quantify the comparison photograph.

This model is Matte Stainless Steel, is threaded 5/8-24, and is for .358 (or less) caliber rifles.  This model includes the fluting on the 6 O'Clock side of the device.  It is also engraved with the MDWS .358 designation.

The HMD comes tapped and with a brass-tip set-screw to lock it in place, or, you can use a traditional crush washer behind the device or even a combination of both if you so choose (No crush washers included).

The HMD weighs in at an insignificant 4.3 ounces and is 3.245" Long by .870" Wide.  Truly invaluable performance for little added weight and length.

Stay on Target with the HMD.

Price Includes Shipping.

YouTube Demo Video:




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These HMD's are awesome! They look a ton heavier than they are- and from what little I have shot them- they tame the sabercat pretty well- others had put them on the yeti and it seemed to tame recoil and flash well. Plus as an added bonus they have the Ranger Joe seal of approval. I did take RJ'S advice and use a piece of lead shot instead of the brass piece in the set screw (not that the brass piece wont work just as well), no crush washer, and this thing is SOLID! Can't wait to try on all calibers! One more nice thing about them is that they are caliber specific- not the old .360 hole for .308 and advertised as .277 or 6.5 like many others are.
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Mark,     I'm assuming that you'll be offering these with melonite coating, so I'm wondering if you have any time frame on those.         Thanks,   Gary


We will and they're off for treatment now. We will eventually have them in the following calibers:

.223 (1/2-28 and 5/8-24)
.243
.264
.277 (1/2-28 and 5/8-24)
.284
.308
.338
.358
.375
.458
.500

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I know these new devices got a good work out at the Shoot last week.  How did the set screw arrangement work out?  Any loosening at all? 

I didn't get a chance to really take a close look at them except from the side.  Can you post a pic looking down the pipe from the front?

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We will and they're off for treatment now. We will eventually have them in the following calibers: .223 (1/2-28 and 5/8-24) .243 .264 .277 (1/2-28 and 5/8-24) .284 .308 .338 .358 .375 .458 .500


Great news. I'll be ordering one of each in .223, .277 and .308 as soon as they hit your website. I've said it before, but I'll say it again - your attention to customers needs is "second to none". Keep up the good work.   Thanks,   Gary
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That is fantastic!  I have had my eye on the Tromix .375 Socom and having the muzzle device marked .375 will go much better with the setup!
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I would love to get one of these but the simple act of calling it a "flash suppressor" in the marketing description instead of just a muzzle brake makes a rifle an "assault rifle" requiring registration in my "great state of California" if it's installed. Everything about it, physically, makes it a featureless muzzle brake except for the wording in the description.

I know, stupid, but it's CA, what do you expect?
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I would love to get one of these but the simple act of calling it a "flash suppressor" in the marketing description instead of just a muzzle brake makes a rifle an "assault rifle" requiring registration in my "great state of California" if it's installed. Everything about it, physically, makes it a featureless muzzle brake except for the wording in the description.

I know, stupid, but it's CA, what do you expect?


Thanks Larry. Thing is, like in the description it is a flash hider/suppressor combined with a compensator so at the end of the day whether or not it also compensates, it does also hide flash therefore it must be described as such. As pursuant to law. And good manners so someone from California like yourself doesn't buy one and then get their rifle confiscated and/or worse.

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I certainly understand but, all my linear comps and muzzle brakes do a dandy job hiding muzzle flash yet, because they are not described or marketed as such, they're CA compliant. Such petty BS isn't it? So, what is there about a "flash hider" that makes a rifle more dangerous except the ignorance and rabid stupidity of the ones creating the laws. Please have pitty on us that live in this God foresaken state. I'm fortunate enough to have a second home in Oregon where I can shop at garage sales and buy all the 30 round mags I want as long as I keep them there for use when I'm there.

Thanks for the explanation.
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I certainly understand but, all my linear comps and muzzle brakes do a dandy job hiding muzzle flash yet, because they are not described or marketed as such, they're CA compliant. Such petty BS isn't it? So, what is there about a "flash hider" that makes a rifle more dangerous except the ignorance and rabid stupidity of the ones creating the laws. Please have pitty on us that live in this God foresaken state. I'm fortunate enough to have a second home in Oregon where I can shop at garage sales and buy all the 30 round mags I want as long as I keep them there for use when I'm there. Thanks for the explanation.

Understood Larry, we just don't want anyone's butt in a sling because of us.

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As you know, I'm a fan of linear comps like the Troy Claymore, or the Black River Tactical comp.  Those provide a significant reduction in the decibel level at the shooter's ear compared to a standard flash hider/muzzle brake. 

Have you done, or do you plan to run any kind of tests to determine how much reduction this new unit does?  Seems like it did a good job taming muzzle rise at the Shoot, but it was hard to evaluate the noise factor with all the other guns going off.

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This Hybrid Muzzle Device ROCKS on my 277 WLV...Last time I had it out it was jumping with the bipod, follow up shots took a while since I had to find the target again.  Now that I've put in on it stays put and follow up doesn't require re-acquisition of the target. 

On my rifle it really seemed to have taken the "crack" out of shot, and made it a little more comfortable to shoot.  It might just be a deeper tone.  Whatever it is, its better. 
 
The set screw is a little long (soon to be ground down) and on mine at least the device is about 1 degree from straight without a crush washer....pretty minor stuff for the benefits.

 


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55Gregg: Unless your .277 WLV is used equally by right and left handed shooters, the 12:00 (dead center) position is suboptimal.

If you are a RIGHT handed shooter, best results come from timing the HMD from about 10:30 (looking from butt to muzzle) to 11:30.  If you shoot mostly unsupported, favor the 10:30 position, if you shoot mostly supported - favor 11:00 to 11:30.

If you are a LEFT handed shooter, your best performance comes from 12:30 to 1:30 timing.  Again - supported shooting favors more vertical timing. 

I'm a righty and have all mine timed about 10:30~10:45.

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Great RJ thanks!
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I'll have to try re aligning it then....I just got a crush washer for it...its actually about 12:05 now its probably less than suboptimal. thanks for the tip RANGERJOE.
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Is there an eta on the 358 HMD muzzle devices I'm in need "lol" for one for the 357AR.
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Is there an eta on the 358 HMD muzzle devices I'm in need "lol" for one for the 357AR.

i think there are a couple nitride ones left. if you want an ss i can open up one of the 284's for you.  i would just skim off the caliber designation

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...  I can open up one of the 284's for you...
Sounds safer than using the bullets to bore it out! [biggrin]

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On but thank you BD I'll wait I'd like the 358 On it for show . There's none of either in the store listed.
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On but thank you BD I'll wait I'd like the 358 On it for show . There's none of either in the store listed.

fyi there are none on order so it may be a long while fyi.

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consider 5/8"-32 for the larger cals?

some 458 bbls are using -32 to prevent bad things from happening
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personally anything over 35 cal i do 11/16-24 or 3/4 - 24 leaves more meat on the muzzle.
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