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Load data 

Edit:8-29-2016 added BIGGDAWG data 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dEmHCV3VyJP1s-RTpxW8G68UQ-cd1cfMfP25hDdiY9A/edit?usp=drive_web

Here are final case dims and forming and loading procedures. This is the way I do it. You might have another process that you like better. I will try to add a video when I can get set up for it.

Starting with LC 5.56 once fired brass.

Resize using the mongoose size die with a .010" space between the shell holder and the die. This can be accomplished with a +.010" redding shell holder from their comp. shell holder set, or by using a shim between the die base and the top of the shell holder, or by backing off the die to create the gap (least likely to give consistent results).

Trim brass to 1.690", chamfer and de-burr and remove primer crimp if not already removed.

Try to chamber your newly formed piece of brass in your rifle.

Does it go easily into battery?

If yes then go on ahead with your loading procedure.

If no then set this case to the side and start over with a new piece of brass and reduce the space between the shell holder and the die to .008" with whichever method you selected on the first piece of brass.

Keep reducing the space between the shell holder and die and resize with a new piece of brass until your brass closes in the chamber without effort. Always be sure to keep the trim length to 1.690" which is max case length.

The reason for using a new piece of brass each time is because the brass that you just sized will not want to move with the .002" bump that you create when reducing the bump gap. It will likely try to spring back to where it was on the first sizing. Just set it to the side and start with a new piece.

Once you have your die/shell holder set so that your brass will chamber you can now go ahead and start loading whichever bullet/powder/primer combination that you want.

Once you have some loaded the neck diameters need to be checked to make sure there will be no interference in the chamber. The maximum diameter that a loaded neck can be is .269". the chamber neck is .271" so you will need .002" minimum room in order for the bullet to release cleanly from the neck and not create a high pressure situation.
The chamber reamer dims are set around LC brass as the parent and its neck thickness.  All of the LC brass that I have used clears the neck with some room to spare. Some other manufactures might not work without neck turning. Those need to be checked near the neck/shoulder jct. to be sure. I know for sure Lapua necks will need to be turned because of how thick the shoulders are on them. I also checked some TA surplus brass that was close to .269" after loading. So I turn those two manufactures brass for sure before loading them.

From all of the load data that I have seen, the published data (not data from Joe Blow off the internet) from various sources are showing max loads for 6x45 to be midrange loads for the mongoose. I have been going half way between max and min for the 6x45, start my ladders there and work up. I have been ending up around a grain or two over max listed loads for the 6x45.
As you all know, there is not a max length for it. You will have to determine where your length needs to be based on your projectile choice. We cant just load to 2.2XX" and call it good because some projectiles will be into the lands at a shorter OAL. You will need a modified case, or use some other method to determine where your projectiles hit the lands and load accordingly.

One last important thing! This is for any hand load! If you have a loaded  cartridge that does not go into battery, do not force it into battery. Something is wrong with it. set it to the side and take some measurements later. It could be a thick neck, loaded too long, jacked up case. Just don't try to force it to shoot. It can bite you!

Also, if you have a 300BLK keep it away. The short case of the BLK will go into battery if the neck tension is light or the crimp is defeated and there is enough space in the case for the bullet to set back.

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From 6-23-2015

Case- Lapua
Primer- BR-4
Bullet- 105AMAX
Trim- 1.700"
Powder- CFE223
Barrel- 26" 4G,8T Edit 12-21-2015 this chamber is longer than the production barrels
OAL-2.385"

27.0gr.
1-2710-av-2702
2-2699-es-11
3-2699-sd-6

27.5gr.
1-2760-av-2751
2-2754-es-17
3-2743-sd-7
4-2749
5-2760
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From 6-28-2015

Case- LC-12
Primer- 450
Bullet- 87 V-MAX
Trim- 1.700"
Powder- TAC
Barrel- 26" 4G,8T  Edit 12-21-2015 this chamber is longer than the production barrels
OAL-2.315"  (.005" into lands)

New brass seated .005" into lands for fire forming. No accuracy data due to rain. 

26.0gr.
1-2818
2-2849

26.5gr.
1-2812
2-2849

27.0gr.
1-2892
2-2879

27.5gr.
1-2898
2-2943

28.0gr.
1-2962
2-2969

28.5gr.
1-3016
2-3037

29.0gr.
1-3086
2-3079

29.5gr.
1-3115-av-3095
2-3093-es-36
3-3079-sd-18

30gr. starting to get into compression, had to turn seater in .005 to make length
1-3174-av-3207
2-3220-es-54
3-3228-sd-18

30.5gr. This is starting to show some pressure, slightly cratered primers, turn seater in .016" to make length
1-3284-av-3246
2-3267-es-95
3-3189-sd-50

changed to fireformed case, and load length to 2.275" .040" off lands. will fit in a mag at this length. Ran out of light before string was done. 

29.0gr.
1-3058-av-3075
2-3079-es-64
3-3108-sd-24
4-3086
5-3044

 
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from 7-4-2015

Case- LC96
Primer- 450
Bullet- 55 Nosler Varmageddon
Trim- 1.700"
Powder- LT-32
Barrel- 26" 4G,8T Edit 12-21-2015 this chamber is longer than the production barrels
OAL-2.270"

26.0gr.
1-3367
2-3350

26.5gr.
1-3392-av-3392
2-3375
3-3410

27.0gr.
1-3463-av-3460
2-3454
3-3463

27.5gr.
1-3527-av-3521
2-3527--es-28
3-3527-sd-12
4-3499
5-3527

Case- LC96
Primer- 450
Bullet- 70  Nosler Varmageddon
Trim- 1.700"
Powder- LT-32
Barrel- 26" 4G,8T
OAL-2.270"

25.0gr.
1-3093-av-3065
2-3058
3-3044

25.5gr.
1-3129-av3136
2-3137
3-3144

26.0gr.
1-3189-av-3191
2-3197
3-3189

26.5gr.
1-3252-av-3256
2-3236-es-40
3-3267-sd-15
4-3252
5-3276
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From 7-5-2015


Case- LC96
Primer- 450
Bullet- 80  Nosler Ballistic Tip 
Trim- 1.700"
Powder- H335
Barrel- 26" 4G,8T Edit 12-21-2015 this chamber is longer than the production barrels
OAL-2.290" 
Hits lands@ 2.325"

26.0gr.
1-2949
2-2936

26.5gr.
1-2969-av-2996
2-2996
3-3023

27.0gr.
1-3072-av3069
2-3044
3-3093

27.5gr.
1-3152-av-3120
2-3108
3-3100

28.0gr
1-3189-av-3186
2-3189
3-3182

28.5gr. these are warm with flat primers
1-3205-av-3252
2-3292
3-3259

29.0gr. these are warmer with flat slightly cratered primers
1-3252-av3262
2-3267
3-3267
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from 8-30-2015 

Bullet-70NVG
Case-LC96
Powder-335
Primer-450
OAL-2.260"
Charge-29.0gr
Barrel- 26" Edit 12-21-2015 this chamber is longer than the production barrels

1-3367-av-3373
2-3368-es-34
3-3384-sd-13
4-3392
5-3358
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From 9-6-2015


Case- LC96
Primer- 450
Bullet- 90 Sierra FMJ
Trim- 1.690"
Powder- various
Barrel- 26" 4G,8T Edit 12-21-2015 this chamber is longer than the production barrels
OAL-various

AR-Comp OAL-2.275"
25.5gr. Group-1"
1-2861-av-2856
2-2867-es-25
3-2842-sd-13

TAC OAL-2.275"
28.5gr. Group-1.3"
1-3003-av-2982
2-2969-es-34
3-2976-sd-17

This was a surprise, was thinking 2460 would be to slow 

A2460 OAL-2.285" Case full
28.0gr. Group-.6"
1-3051-av-3032
2-3023-es-23
4-3023-sd-16
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from 9-13-2015

Case- LC96
Primer- 450
Bullet- Fed. 80PSP pulled
Trim- 1.690"
Powder- 2460, 8208
Barrel- 26" 4G,8T Edit 12-21-2015 this chamber is longer than the production barrels
OAL- 2.185" 

2460
27.0gr.
1-3037-av-3020
2-3030-es-41
3-2996-sd-13
4-3009
5-3030

28.0gr
1-3065-av-3086
2-3079-es-43
3-3108-sd-17
4-3100
5-3079

8208
27.0gr.
1-2976-av-2982
2-2976-es-40
3-2969-sd-15
4-3009
5-2982

28.0gr.
1-3122-av-3128
2-3108-es-36
3-3144-sd-15
4-3122
5-3144
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from 9-25-2015

New 20" barrel. This chamber is .010" shorter than the 26" barrel. 


Case- Lapua
Primer- 450
Bullet- 90 Sierra FMJ 
Trim- 1.680"
Powder- BL-C(2)
Barrel- 20" 4 groove 8 twist
OAL- 2.265"

27.0gr.
1-2699-av-2685
2-2688-es-54
3-2650-sd-24

27.5gr. These three went into .4" group
1-2772-av-2775
2-2766-es-23
3-2789-sd-11

28.0gr
1-2777-av-2796
2-2789-es-35
3-2807-sd-14
4-2812
5-2795

28.5gr.
1-2830-av-2824
2-2830-es-18
3-2812-sd-10

Case- Lapua
Primer- 450
Bullet- 70 Nosler Varmageddon
Trim- 1.680"
Powder- 335
Barrel- 20" 4 groove 8 twist
OAL- 2.270"

29.0gr.  Not very accurate, warm load
1-3267-av-3293
2-3300-es-66
3-3333-sd-25
4-3276
5-3292
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from 9-25-2015

Case- LC-96
Primer- 450
Bullet- 87 V-max
Trim- 1.680"
Powder- BL-C(2)
Barrel- 20" 4 groove 8 twist
OAL- 2.255"

27.5gr These shot like the 90FMJ's .6" group
1-2754-av-2752
2-2749-es-5
3-2754-sd-2

28.0gr.
1-2812-av-2792
2-2788-es-29
3-2783-sd-16

28.5gr.
1-2855-av-2856
2-2836-es-43
3-2879-sd-21 
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from 10-3-2015

Case- LC-96 new, not fireformed
Primer- 450
Bullet- 80 pulled Federal
Trim- 1.675"
Powder-TAC
Barrel- 18" 10 twist mid-gas
OAL- 2.190"

29.0gr.
1-2930-av-2966
2-2962-es-66
3-2976-sd-24
4-2996
5-2969

29.2gr.
1-3003-av-2992
2-2996-es-68
3-2990-sd-25
4-2964
5-2969
6-3003
7-3030
8-3030
9-2962
10-2976

29.5gr. these were a little hotter than I like, brass probably wont last long.
1-3044-av-3049
2-3072-es-63
3-3037-sd-25
4-3079
5-3016
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Case- LC-96 fireformed
Primer- 450
Bullet- 68 Barnes Match Burner
Trim- 1.675"
Powder-LT-32
Barrel- 18" 10 twist mid-gas
OAL- 2.280"
Hits lands- 2.305"

Chrono was acting up due to rain/mist and too close to barrel, take readings with grain of salt.


25.7gr
1-3075-av-3065
2-3072-es-14
3-3058-sd-7

26.0gr.
1-3115-av-3117
2-3108-es-21
3-3129-sd-10

26.3gr.
1-3182-av-3137
2-3093-es-89
3-3137-sd-44

26.6gr.
1-3137-av-3149
2-3182-es-53
3-3129-sd-28

26.6gr. again
1-3174-av-3160
2-3144-es-30
3-3144-sd-15
4-3174
5-3167

26.9gr.
1-3205-av-3185
2-3167-es-38
3-3206-sd-19
4-3182
5-3167
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from 10-28-2015


Case- LC-96 fireformed
Primer- 450
Bullet- 55 Nosler Tipped Varmageddon 
Trim- 1.675"
Powder-TAC
Barrel- 22" 4groove 8 twist Rifle gas
OAL- 2.280"
Hits lands- 2.315"

29.5gr. Accuracy .3" these went into one ragged hole
1-3375-av-3327
2-3267
3-3341

30.5gr. Accuracy-.75"
1-3527-av-3502
2-3518
3-3463

Case- LC-96 fireformed
Primer- 450
Bullet- 90 Nosler AB
Trim- 1.675"
Powder-Various
Barrel- 22" 4groove 8 twist Rifle gas
OAL- Various
Hits lands- 2.350"

27.0gr. 8208 2.280" heavily compressed Accuracy .5"
1-2807-av-2810
2-2809
3-2818

28.0gr. CFE223 Accuracy .75"
1-2710-av-2713
2-2721
3-2710

29.0gr. CFE223 compressed Accuracy 1.1"
1-2783-av-2779
2-2801
3-2754

28.0 BLC-2 Accuracy .75"
1-2783-av-2779
2-2772
3-2783

29.0gr. BLC-2 compressed Accuracy.75"
1-2830-av-2830
2-2836
3-2824

Stepped right on top of this one.

27.5gr. 335 2.285" Accuracy .75" This is hot hunting load, brass wont last many firings. 
1-2969-av-2949
2-2943
3-2936

Shot the same load from 20" barrel same pressure signs. Will play with length to get some better accuracy.

27.5gr. 335 2.285" Accuracy 1.2"
1-2892-av-2873
2-279
3-2851
4-2861
5-2873
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from 10-31-2015 RJ

Put some grain thru the 'goose today....  many grains of A-2200 and 70gr Nosler VG-Ts to be exact.  As per the data below, I CLEARLY hit (or exceeded) the wall before 27.0grs of powder.  Results went to hell in a hand-basket real fast after 26.5gr.

Case: LC-96 Fireformed
Primer: CCI-41
Bullet: 70gr Nosler Varmageddon Tipped
Trim: 1.675"
Powder: A-2200
OAL: 2.275"
Hits lands: 2.314"
Barrel: 18" 6 groove 1:10, mid-gas
3-rd test groups; winds 7~15mph from10:30

24.5gr Accuracy = 1.05”
MVavg: 2965 fps

25.0gr Accuracy = 1.3”
MVavg: 2998

25.5gr Accuracy = 0.20”
MVavg: 3099

26.0gr Accuracy = 0.35”
MVavg: 3132

26.5gr Accuracy = 0.55”  Primers starting to flatten
MVavg: 3162

27.0gr Accuracy = 3.4”  Primers flat & cratered 
MVavg: 3284  Failure to feed with rds 2 & 3
TOO HOT - don't go there!!


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Case- LC-96 fireformed
Primer- 450
Bullet- 70 Nosler Tipped Varmageddon 
Trim- 1.675"
Powder-Benchmark
Barrel- 20" 4groove 8 twist Rifle gas
OAL- 2.285"
Hits lands- 2.315"

25.5gr.
1-2795-av-2793
2-2783-es-18
3-2801-sd-9

25.8gr.
1-2842-av-2848
2-2855-es-13
3-2849-sd-6

26.1gr.
1-2886-av-2869
2-2855-es-31
3-2867-sd-15

26.4
1-2949-av-2940
2-2943-es-19
3-2930-sd-9

26.7gr.
1-2936-av-2951
2-2976-es-40
3-2943-sd-21

27.0
1-3030-av-3005
2-3003-es-48
3-2982-sd-24

27.3gr.
1-3030-av-3049
2-3065-es-35
3-3051-sd-17

27.6gr.
1-3108-av-3108
2-3108-es-0
3-3108-sd-0
Not maxxed out.....
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Case- LC-96 fireformed
Primer- 450
Bullet- 95 Federal Fusion ( pulled from American Reloading)
Trim- 1.675"
Powder-Benchmark
Barrel- 20" 4groove 8 twist Rifle gas
OAL- 2.285"
Hits lands- 2.310"

25.0gr.-accuracy-1.0"
1-2710-av-2717
2-2726-es-16
3-2715-sd-8

25.3-accuracy-1.1"
1-2715-av-2726
2-2726-es-22
3-2737-sd-11

25.6-accuracy-.75"
1-2789-av-2802
2-2801-es-29
3-2818-sd-14

25.9-accuracy-.6"
1-2842-av-2834
2-2849-es-37
3-2812-sd-19
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Case- LC-96 fireformed
Primer- 450
Bullet- 85TSX
Trim- 1.675"
Powder-748,H335
Barrel- 20" 4groove 8 twist Rifle gas
OAL- 2,280"
Hits lands- 2.305"

Win 748
28.5gr-accuracy-.8"
1-2943-av-2945
2-2943-es-6
3-2949-sd-3

29.0gr.-accuracy-1.2"-compressed
1-3030-av-2998
2-2962-es-69
3-3003-sd-34

H-335
27.0gr-accuracy-1.0"
1-3065-av-3074
2-3072-es-23
3-3086-sd-10

27.5gr-accuracy-1.1"
1-3108-av-3086
2-3093-es-50
3-3058-sd-25
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Fresh cases are LC12 and LC13, using "Custom RCBS Die" with +.006 comp shellholder, 70 Speer TNT with 26.0 grains of 1200-R, CCI 400 primers loaded to 2.26.

Rifle is 22" 1:8 4-groove. 


LC12 Fresh Brass

I ran three 5-round strings and averaged the numbers.

Avg 3135fps SD 29 (.485 group @75 yards)

  

LC13 Fresh Brass

I ran three 5-round strings and averaged the numbers.

Avg 3115fps SD 25 (.425 group @75 yards)

  
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Then it got interesting.  I took my 1x fired Mongoose cases, LC12 from last range trip, loaded them with a +.008 comp shellholder, again with 26.0 grains of 1200-R but with CCI 41 primers this time.  Not as good!  I'm going to go back to the CCI400 primers on these fireformed cases, and see what happens.  I'll load a few fresh cases with CCI 41's as well so I know exactly "whom" the culprit is here.  Could be the 41's, would make sense since different primer, but I used them on firefromed cases which changes capacity so maybe the ratio threw it off as well.  We'll see next outing.  I know one thing, I'm WAY happy with the fresh case results considering my goal was just to get a good load to fireform with.  I have 200+ of then loaded now so good deal there.  Nice target load.  Now I also have about 7 or 8 other bullets and powders to try, too.  


LC12 1x (Fireformed) Brass

I ran three 5-round strings and averaged the numbers.

Avg 3140fps SD 26 (.965 group @75 yards)
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Case- TA10 ( Neck turned by necessity. Will not work unless turned)
Primer- 450
Bullet- 80Win PowerPoint
Trim- 1.675"
Powder-TAC
Barrel- 20" 4groove 8 twist Rifle gas
OAL- 2.280"
Hits lands- 2.30"ish

28.0gr-accuracy-.6
1-3044-av-3055
2-3093-es-70
3-3051-sd-26
4-3065
5-3023
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Case- LC-96 fireformed
Primer- 450
Bullet- 105 A-Max
Trim- 1.680"
Powder- Varget, AR-Comp
Barrel- 20" 4groove 8 twist Rifle gas
OAL- 2.355" (open front mag)
Hits lands- 2.385"

26.0gr. Varget heavy compressed  Group-.75"
1-2578-av-2592
2-2583-es-26
3-2599-sd-11
4-2599
5-2604

24.0gr. AR-Comp group-1.0"
1-2578-av-2598
2-2614-es-36
3-2604-sd-15
4-2609
5-2588

24.3gr. AR-Comp group-.75"
1-2629-av-2612
2-2599-es-41
3-2594-sd-18
4-2635
5-2604

24.6gr. AR-Comp group-.75"
1-2624-av-2625
2-2619-es-31
3-2614-sd-11
4-2645
5-2624

24.9gr. AR-Comp group-.6" (four went into .25")
1-2635-av-2653
2-2672-es-37
3-2640-sd-15
4-2661
5-2661
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Case- LC various
Primer- 450
Bullet- 62 Barnes Varmint Grenade
Trim- 1.685"
Powder-H-322
Barrel- 20" 4groove 8 twist Rifle gas
OAL- 2.260"
Hits lands- 2.275"
Temp-66


25.5gr.-group-.5"
1-2982-av-3011
2-3030-es-48
3-3023-sd-25

26.0gr.-group-.9"
1-3044-av-3060
2-3016-es-106
3-3122-sd-54

26.5-group-.6"
1-NR--av-3133
2-3100-es-67
3-3167-sd-47

27.5-group-.4"
1-3228-av-3238
2-3236-es-24
3-3252-sd-12

Case- LC various
Primer- 450
Bullet- 55 Nosler Shots
Trim- 1.685"
Powder-H-322
Barrel- 20" 4groove 8 twist Rifle gas
OAL- 2.110"
Hits lands- 2.130"
Temp-65


27.5gr-group-.7"
1-NR-av-3236
2-3236
3-3236

28.0gr-group-.8"
1-3236-av-3314
2-3350-es-122
3-3358-sd-68

28.5gr-group.75"
1-NR-av-3414
2-3410
3-3418

29.0gr-group-.4
1-3463-av-3484
2-3499-es-36
3-3490-sd-18

29.5gr-group-.6" four went into .200"
1-3463-av-3525
2-3593-es-130
3-3527-sd-47
4-3508
5-3536

30.0gr-group-.6" This is max load in this barrel
1-3584-av-3549
2-3584
3-3581
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Rifle:  22" McGowen 1:8 twist 4-Groove.  My chamber is .010 deeper than spec.


Case- Firefromed LC13
Primer- BR4
Bullet- Speer 75 grain HP
Trim- 1.670"
Powder- BLC-2
Barrel- 22" 1:8 4-Groove
COAL- ~2.168
Hits lands- 1.844 LTO
Loaded: 1.814" LTO
.010 Shellholder
Temp-70


28.0 - Group .5" @ 50 yards (4 in one hole, 1 flyer)
5 rounds
Max 2877
Min 2835
Avg 2854
SD 17.3

28.2 - Group .27" @ 50 yards (one ragged hole)
5 rounds
Max 2903
Min 2879
Avg 2890
SD 11

28.4 - Group .39" @ 50 yards (4 in one hole, 1 flyer)
Max 2958
Min 2887
Avg 2924
SD 30.4

28.6 - Group .49" @ 50 yards (4 in one hole, 1 flyer)
Max 2968
Min 2927
Avg 2946
SD 15.1

28.8 - Group .40" @ 50 yards (1 ragged hole)
Max 2998
Min 2958
Avg 2979
SD 15.2

30.00 - Group - .790" @ 50 yards (4 in one hole, one flyer out there I think I jerked it)
Max 3075
Min 3014
Avg 3040
SD 24.4

All cases Look Fine



Case- Fresh FC
Primer- BR4
Bullet- Hornady 87 Grain V-Max
Trim- 1.680"
Powder- H335
Barrel- 22" 1:8 4-Groove
COAL- ~2.23
Hits lands- 1.790 LTO
Loaded: 1.765" LTO
.060 Shellholder
Temp-70

26.3 - Group .567" @ 50 yards (4 in one hole, 1 flyer)
Max 2873
Min 2843
Avg 2862
SD 13.7
(Swipes, one blown primer, too hot DO NOT SHOOT but started next load of 26.5 to test)

26.5 - Group - .50" @ 50 yards (4 in one hole, 1 flyer)
Max 2889
Min 2850
Abg 2864
SD 16.5
(Nasty swipes and two blown primers - DO NOT SHOOT / STOP)
Will try LC cases and ladder starting at 25.5 grains next time



Case- Fresh FC
Primer- BR4
Bullet- Winchester 80 grain Pointed Soft Point (PSP)
Trim- 1.680"
Powder- BLC-2
Barrel- 22" 1:8 4-Groove
COAL- ~2.245
Hits lands- 1.856" LTO
Loaded: 1.816" LTO
.060 shellholder
Temp-70

28.2 - Group .35" @ 50 yards (one ragged hole)
Max 2834
Min 2814
Avg 2822
SD 9

28.4 - Group .90" @ 50 yards (no excuses/reason)
Max 2859
Min 2818
Avg 2841
SD 18.6

28.6 - Group .64" @ 50 yards (noticed horizontal stringing)
Max 2894
Min 2847
Avg 2876
SD 17.4

28.8 - Group .635" @ 50 yards (One hole with 1 flyer)
Max 2994
Min 2964
Avg 2915
SD 48.5 (Not a good sign, but cases looked ok)


29.0 - Group .89" @50 yards (horizontal string)
Max 3020
Min 2910
Avg 2969
SD 45.5
(swipes, 1 blown primer, TOO HOT DO NOT SHOOT)
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Case- LC various
Primer- 450
Bullet- Win 80sp
Trim- 1.695"
Powder- LT-32
Barrel- 20" 4groove 8 twist Rifle gas
OAL- 2.270", 1.860"
Hits lands- 2.290", 1.880"
Temp-70

24.0gr
1-2760
2-2749

24.5gr
1-2812
2-2807

25.0gr-accuracy-.8"
1-2855-av-2857
2-2861-es-37
3-2873-sd-13
4-2861
5-2836

25.2gr-accuracy-.7"
1-2886-av-2897
2-2892-es-37
3-2898-sd-15
4-2886
5-2923

25.4gr-accuracy-.5"
1-2917-av-2933
2-2917-es-25
3-2911-sd-11
4-2936
5-2936

25.6gr-accuracy-1.2"
1-2943-av-2945
2-2956-es-13
3-2943-sd-5
4-2943
5-2943

25.8-accuracy-1.2"
1-2956-av-2958
2-2956-es-20
3-2962-sd-7
4-2949
5-2969

26.0gr-accuracy-.8" warm
1-2976-av-2977
2-2982-es-53
3-3009-sd-20
4-2956
5-2962

26.2gr-accuracy-1.3" warm
1-2969-av-2982
2-3009-es-53
3-2996-sd-21
4-2956
5-2982
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Case- LC various
Primer- 450
Bullet- 70 Sierra TBK
Trim- 1.690"
Powder- 2460
Barrel- 20" 4groove 8 twist Rifle gas
OAL- 2.285", 1.850"
Hits lands- 2.305", 1.870"
Temp-75

28.0gr.-accuracy-.8"
av-3082

28.5gr.-accuracy-1.0"
av-3152

29.0gr.-accuracy-.5" All that will fit in the case at this load length.
av-3189
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Case- LC12
Primer- Rem 7-1/2
Bullet- 80 Win SP
Trim- 1.685"
Powder- H4895
Barrel- 22" X-Caliber 6 groove 8 twist
OAL- 2.26" 1.841"
Hits lands- 2.28" 1.861"
Temp-95

25.5gr
1-ND-av-2738
2-2766-es-51
3-2737-sd-20
4-2737
5-2715

26.0gr
2-2807-av-2794
2-2801-es-93
3-2737-sd-34
4-2795
5-2830

26.5gr
1-2886-av-2858
2-2812-es-74
3-2879-sd-29
4-2849
5-2867

27.0gr most accurate at .5moa
1-2904-av-2896
2-2886-es-18
3-2904-sd-9
4-2892
5-2904

27.5gr coming against compression, had to turn seater in to make length. 
1-2956-av-2957
2-2962-es-46
3-2936-sd-17
4-2949
5-2982
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