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smokinghole

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I'm picking up another 6.5 Grendel barrel. This time it's an ARP w/750 xd bolt. I also have a 6.5 BRX. I am thinking of getting a non-reciprocating side charger, either NFA or Gibbz. As far as I can tell though, they are the same upper.

Has anyone built a manual side charger? I'm sure it's easy. I'd just buy a nice adjustable GB run it closed and leave the gas tube off the gun. Is there anything not obvious I need to be worried about? It seems as simple as no gas tube and a closed GB. I'd assemble it with a tube for the barrel nut alignment then loosen the GB and slide the tube out. I'm sure there's an cheaper option to an adjustable GB but if I get a clamp on adjustable all I have to do is loosen it and add the gas tube/roll pin.

I am slightly torn between the non-reciprocating with the charging knob on the left side and a reciprocating handle on the right side. The latter being more like a regular bolt action, in regard to ergonomics, except it's a straight back action.

Anyone have experience with both types? What did you like better and why?

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if going to do a manual charge set up with the non recip you can't use the charge handle as a forward assist. 

you can get left side charge uppers -- i have 4 of them -- would be much easier because you can use the charge handle on the carrier to be your forward assist.

jb sells a similar upper as the gibbz he may chime in.

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I would go the simple route with a right side reciprocating charge handle. You could just install a generic low profile gas block inverted (with no tube) and now you have a simple straight pull bolt action for hunting. If/when the PA game commission allows big game hunting with a semi-auto, then just install the GB as normal and add a tube.
I would suggest using an Eisenach Arms side charging handle. They are the most rugged handles that I have experienced and won't fail you in the field.
https://eisenacharms.com/pages/why-side-charge 


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I've looked at both a lot the last 48hrs or so. I'm having a tough time swallowing the $200 carrier and a $200 receiver. I am leaning towards the NFA non-reciprocating upper from a financial point if view. I can get one for about $210 and it uses a normal carrier which I already have. That's a cheap half decent scope worth in savings.

The forward assist potential of the Eisenach hardware is really nice looking, but I've never needed forward assist. Even shooting a lot of wolf steel case at a small group tactics and breaching carbine course with an old GUU-5P I didn't need forward assist. Not sure it's worth the extra dough right now.
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Smokinghole have you seen this. https://www.midwayusa.com/product/872317/ar-stoner-side-charging-upper-receiver-assembled-ar-15-223-remington-matte
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Smokinghole have you seen this. https://www.midwayusa.com/product/872317/ar-stoner-side-charging-upper-receiver-assembled-ar-15-223-remington-matte

I had not! Thank you for that. Best deal so far.
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Little upper mock-up here. I got the AR Stoner model because it was tough to beat the price. I had to exchange the first one because they bubble mailer packed an unboxed upper. The handguard is an ALG ergo M-Lok V2 I think. Should get the BRX barrel in over the weekend.

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What's your impression of that upper? I've looked at it on Midway before but haven't talked to anyone with personal experience.
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smokinghole

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I can't see anything wrong with it. I do not have other side charge uppers to compare. Considering it comes with a full BCG it's a killer deal.
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I had not! Thank you for that. Best deal so far.

BCA has reciprocating side-chargers for $209, your choice of 5.56 or 7.62x39.
http://www.bearcreekarsenal.com/upper-receivers/bca-branded-side-charging-receiver-bcg-combo-7-
Built one for my budget Grendel type 1.

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BCA has reciprocating side-chargers for $209, your choice of 5.56 or 7.62x39.
http://www.bearcreekarsenal.com/upper-receivers/bca-branded-side-charging-receiver-bcg-combo-7-
Built one for my budget Grendel type 1.
I'm putting my gas tube on the gun tonight. PA is allowing semi autos for all seasons. Hopefully I can slay some deer with my 6.5brx.
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I built a 5.56 with a Mega side charger upper, BHW 20" semi bull barrel without a gas port (can't be converted to semi auto without changing barrels. Where an SA would make it illegal or require registration in some locals). I then added a large bolt knob and was able to have an adapter made to fit the old charger handle threads. Not exactly where I want it yet but it works great.
The first pic is the finished mounting of the knob, the second is initial placement before the final fitting of the knob. Third pic, Bradley Arms (UK) makes a handle that is longer. The knob is cranked down and is positioned above the grip. As I now shoot left handed, I would like to have the knob cranked down, but remain as forward as possible ( until I get my ambi upper).
4&5 side and front before knob.
There is one I can get, (6th pic) the port can be opened up to fit a .50 BEO. If gotten with the FULL Ambi, it comes with Left and Right bolts, ejection ports, side charger knobs and the carrier is drilled both sides.

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