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flitemedic13

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trying to narrow down my bullet choices and so far its MDWS 100gr Lehigh Def controlled chaos 110gr and maybe the Barnes choices 95 and 110gr TTSX.  Which of the bullets you've personally tried out either disappointed you on speed, accuracy or expansion/game terminal performance?  I'm more concerned with the expansion moreso than the speed but id figure id throw in all 3.  I am shooting 16" 1:7 twist and have SWBO on hand.  Mainly pig/deer and targets.  Also wanting to shoot subs whenever the suppressor shows up so give me your heavy subsonic bullet performance review as well.  thanks in advance, jonathan

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I stuck to 90gn and under and for hunting i used the 85gn Etip since there weren't many light offerings in 6.8cal. It did a good job.

As for disappointments, the heavier offerings didnt carry well for me because they were just too slow and I worried about lack of expansion at extended ranges. Esp this lead free bullets. MDWS had there own lead free which was designed to open at sub speeds but i never tried them out.
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I have had no problem with the Barnes expanding but have not shot anything beyond 200yds with the 6.8. With .308 I shot one antelope at 300yds and the bullet had obviously expanded.( 165 TSX at an impact velocity of approximately 1900 fps.)

i have had 165 hornady SST come completely apart on deer @ 100yds.

In the 6.8 I do like the 110 gr Hornady V-max for varmints and "plinking". @200yds it and the 110TSX soot to the same POI in my rifle.
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Anything over 130 gr and any Barnes bullets, because I found myself tracking blood trails for greater distances than other bullets.

I have only heard of these bullets performing but never experenced it myself.
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flitemedic13

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I assume maybe it lack of speed at distance wouldnt allow those barnes to expand correctly maybe??
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Ive read a few places that the min velocity for them to open is about 1800fps. Hornady GMX min velocity is about 2000fps because its a harder metal they use.

I know the 130s are going super slow in the WLV and def wont have the energy to open up at distance. They will essentially act as a FMJ and zip through the animal.
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I assume maybe it lack of speed at distance wouldnt allow those barnes to expand correctly maybe??


Yep that was the issue I found. Did get some ok results when running a 20", but I typically run a 16". I found the accubond 110 gr was deadly.
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lizARdman15

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Hornady 120 SST out of 11" twist barrels.

I never got acceptable or even repeatable accuracy.
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Hornady 120 SST out of 11" twist barrels.

I never got acceptable or even repeatable accuracy.


Factory or Handloads?
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Handloads.

This was all 2014-15ish. There were no factory rounds.

I just gave up on the bullet. I loaded them into dummy rounds to give out to people.
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Handloads.

This was all 2014-15ish. There were no factory rounds.

I just gave up on the bullet. I loaded them into dummy rounds to give out to people.


I see. Out of all my barrels there are a couple that dont like 120 sst, but all are 1/11 twist.
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My disappointing bullet was the Hornady SST 165 gr in the .308 Win. It came apart like a varmint bullet.

I have been using Barnes in my .308Win,.270Win, 7WSM. my wife's .257 Roberts and my 6.8 Spc. Most recent kill was 10/1/19 with the 95gr in the 6.8SPC. Mulie forky @  240 yds,bang,flop.

I started using these circa 1992; have not had any disappointments from Pronghorn to Shiras moose.
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